The crowd goes wi… wait what? The crowd booed! Serves him right!
D’oh, no more scare tactics for you jerks! It’s too bad, I really like John McCain, I wish he’d stick to his honor and shy away from exploiting the troops.
How many soldier’s to the gallon do you get? Wow, powerful statement, but quite crass. Is there even a nice way to frame the argument?
Sometimes, a lack of tact can help bring about change, but in this case, I think it just helps promote anger and resentment on both sides of the issue.
MSNBC published an article “Migrant never thought to leave boy…
An illegal immigrant who gave up his long walk into the U.S. to help a boy whose mother was killed in a van crash in the desert said Wednesday that he never thought of leaving the child. “I am a father of four children. For that, I stayed,” Manuel Jesus Cordova Soberanes said in Spanish from his home in the Mexican state of Sonora. “I never could have left him. Never.” Authorities said Cordova may have saved the life of 9-year-old Christopher Buztheitner, whose mother was killed when their van ran off a cliff in a remote area north of the Mexican border on Thanksgiving Day.
Article about the loss of America’s humanity: Illegal immigrant hero deserves a medal and Visa, not deportation.
The Mexican consulate in Nogales is trying to obtain a short-term visa for Cordova so he can come to Arizona and be recognized for his actions. I suggested instead that the US government should send him a legal permanent Visa and invite this hero to come to the US. I noted, “The next time you hear some immigrant-basher refer to ‘those f***ing Mexicans,’ think of Manuel Jesus Cordova Soberanes.”
There is a political genius that comes from the writers of South Park. They’re self described libertarians, and I think a lot of their material is very funny. Some of the issues they harp about though are pretty dumb. I understand they are comics first, but there is an agenda there, they really are political activists at the core.
Check out one of their classic assaults on Al Gore, here’s the picture that’s gone viral a number of times.
The anti-Gore sentiment doesn’t come from the libertarian side, it’s more of a neo-conservative sentiment that has become a cornerstone of the GOP as a result of the polarization of American politics. Below is a clip from the infamous south park episode:
the Man-bear-pig episode, South Park – 2007
Funny episode, but really, why the heck do they hate on Gore so much? By the way, when the polar ice caps melt, there won’t be much time to enjoy your favorite south park episode,…. BOO!
As I was perusing the Internet for the latest gems of American culture, I found an article that highlighted a member of the U.S. military who was offended by John McCain’s position at the debate. I’ve seen McCain say the same thing in the past, he’s been on the Daily Show before and uses the “troops don’t want to lose” argument. It’s pretty despicable, I know he served our country but he doesn’t speak for the troops. In fact, the troops are speaking with their wallets and giving all of their cash to the anti-War candidates, including Ron Paul, Barack Obama and the rest of the Democrats. So next time John McCain wants to exploit the soldiers the way President Bush does, he might think twice before letting loose his “support the troops” bombs.
Below are some select i-reporter answers from the post-CNN debate by relevant parties:
anon from WA says the don’t ask, don’t tell policy is no good, the morale argument is a cop out
I am a lieutenant in the U.S. Army. I served as a platoon leader, and am now working at the battalion level and am about to make the rank of captain. I ask that you not use my name because I am active duty. In response to the candidates’ remarks on gays in the military, not a single one will get my vote. Sen. McCain said he has talked to the leaders in the Army, the generals.
These are not the people to talk to on this issue; the people to talk to are the lieutenants, the captains and the sergeants. They are the ones who serve with these soldiers. They are the ones who see how these soldiers serve. Openly gay soldiers should not be discriminated against. They do not damage morale; they do not damage the ability of a unit to fight. Years ago, the ability of women to fight was questioned, yet now we are in a war where there is no battle line, everywhere is the front line. I’ve lost friends both on the FOB and outside, both men AND women.
Jeff Stevens of Peekskill, New York – United States Army offended by John McCain’s ‘troops want to win’ propaganda.
As a member of the U.S. Army, it greatly offends me to hear John McCain say things like “Our troops want to finish the job.” I have never in my few years as a young Soldier in both an active duty and reserve component heard anyone say such things. It is a soldier’s job to be neutral and fulfill the duties that the American people task us with. I think it is wrong to fool the American people into thinking that soldiers actually enjoy the brutal environment in Iraq and wish to stay there.
Stephen Farley of San Francisco, California referring to the man who wanted equal treatment for gays in the military.
The bravery of the brigadier general in the audience was the highlight of the evening.
Despite my annoyance with John McCain exploiting “the troops” ™, he did do one great service to America. He has taken a strong stance against torture, waterboarding and showed his disgust with the pussyfooting by various Republicans on whether or not waterboarding constitutes torture. Good for him, if not for that strong bit of character I’d have him in the Rudy Giuliani basket (aka loser). Below is another comment that is relevant to this matter.
Frank Richmond of Wichita, Kansas
I’m amazed to hear all these well-fed people who have never felt any pain talking about what is or isn’t torture. If you kicked in any of these candidates’ doors, dragged them out of bed naked, threw them in a cell for a few days, then tied them upside down to a board with a wet towel around their head and started hosing them down, they would think it was torture.
They might think it’s necessary on occasion, but at least be man enough to call it what it is.
Being honest about difficult policy issues isn’t their forte, sorry to say. Over the last decade, it’s been all about how our politicians could exploit the troops for political gain then turn around and leave them to drown, pardon the pun. How many veterans are homeless, suffer from mental illness, have experienced divorce and broken families as a result of our military abuse? Bush isn’t the first president to exploit them, but he’s certainly been the most blatant with it and he’s been downright shameless.
Tonight, during the youtube / CNN debate, I had to smirk at one of his answers. Rudy Giuliani made a ‘funny’ response on a question about his loyalty to the NY Yankees and why he cheered on the Red Sox during the playoffs. He said something to the effect of, “I’ll remind you that when I was mayor of NY, the Yankees won the Championship 4 times. Since being Mayor, they haven’t won the world series!”
I know he was just joking, but the kind of logic reminds me of this family guy snippet:
Rudy Giuliani, “President of 9/11″ and the reason the Yankees won four national titles! I wonder what’s going to happen with that latest scandal about misusing taxpayer dollars to fund his sexcapades in NY? Maybe Americans will look the other way, the way they’ve overlooked Valerie Plame Wilson’s outting, the Katrina massive government response failure, Alberto Gonzales’ lies, the U.S. Attorney firing scandals, Karl Rove’s role in all of these major scandals, the Libby conviction and pardon by Bush, and oh let’s not forget the false information fed the public while the President attempted to sell the Iraq invasion to the U.S. and world.
Given what we know about the Bush Administration scandals, isn’t Giuliani’s indiscretion just another drop in the bucket?
Rudy Giuliani dead in the water?
Wow, I didn’t expect this at all. I’ve been fighting this dark shadow in the GOP for a while now, he troubles me the way President George W. Bush and Dick Cheney have over the years. Now, it looks like the Politico broke a story that will end Rudy Giuliani’s Presidential candidacy. If anything, it’s going to cripple his campaign.
As New York mayor, Rudy Giuliani billed obscure city agencies for tens of thousands of dollars in security expenses amassed during the time when he was beginning an extramarital relationship with future wife Judith Nathan in the Hamptons, according to previously undisclosed government records.
The documents, obtained by Politico under New York’s Freedom of Information Law, show that the mayoral costs had nothing to do with the functions of the little-known city offices that defrayed his tabs, including agencies responsible for regulating loft apartments, aiding the disabled and providing lawyers for indigent defendants.
At the time, the mayor’s office refused to explain the accounting to city auditors, citing “security.”
The Hamptons visits resulted in hotel, gas and other costs for Giuliani’s New York Police Department security detail.
Is this something Rudy is capable of spinning?
Here’s the entire article at Politico: “Giuliani billed obscure agencies for trips.“
Ron Paul was receiving cheers and the crowd seemed to appreciate his responses on some of the political issues, but he was constantly interrupted and it almost seemed like CNN was making an effort to undermine his message. It was a good debate for Republicans that suddenly have discovered diversity in their answers and even shifting towards the main stream. However, it was a bad day for the American voter. When men like Ron Paul are gagged because the answer he’ll give isn’t popular or satisfactory to the establishment, our Democracy is no longer clean.
We have to face the facts, we’re living in a tainted democracy. The freedom that we fight for is no longer the freedom that our ancestors and founding fathers were seeking out. They’d be ashamed of us, and frankly, I am ashamed of what the United States is becoming. We’re living in frightening times, some day, America will realize it and I just hope when that day comes, it won’t be too late.
This is the man that is supposed to unite America and protect us from evil?
What ever happened to family values, innocence, love and trust? Why are we having issues with little kids hugging in school, is this a government issue? Have we given education too much liberty to make decisions based on religious views? Was this an issue of religious over-protectiveness?
Below is a picture of the child who got into trouble for hugging in school! Yes, that’s her family, it is sad how far America has fallen.
One of my best friends is an Evangelical Christian and she went all the way with her kids. She removed them (three young girls) all from the public educational system. She believes public education is corrupt and a place where “evil” can flourish. Her kids are beautiful, believe in God and they make a wonderful little family, but they have no point of reference for the real world.
I’m concerned that the kids may not gain the skills they need to handle real life problems when they grow up. To each their own, I guess.